MAG (Mature Age Gay) Sydney


Religion

The churches have a history of persecuting persons who fall outside their rigid concept of normality. Consequently, many MAG members are disturbed at coming to terms with their religion and their sexual proclivity. Many have known that they were gay from an early age and that gayness is a part of their nature. Yet the churches say that they can be cured and then they can return to the fold. Many faiths including the Christian church have a horrendous record of persecution of gays down through the centuries and this rubs off on to many aspects of secular life today.

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A Gay Christian - an oxymoron?
Don Dudgeon says No!

In the cover letter for this article, Don Dudgeon says: "All the negative vibes we get through the community are because of the morals of the church. Even people who have never gone to to church are affected by it. Our whole moral ethics and even legal system is based on the Bible and its interpretation".

I have been preaching for years to the mainstream church that the terms gay and Christian are not incompatible. It is only in the last few months that I have realised that gays need this message as well.

I could fill up many pages complete with Biblical text to say why I believe that the Bible does not condemn homosexuality but I don't want you to tune out. I want you to read all I have to say so will try to keep it brief and just give you my homespun theology.

First of all I know that I did not choose to be gay; God created me this way. And God does not make mistakes so He created me this way for a purpose. And God is a just God. He would not create 10% of His people gay and deny them the right of sexual expression. You know Jesus does not make any condemnation of homosexuality. And He knows all about it; He is, after all, omniscient. Surely if He felt that it was an aberration He would have said so. He even acknowledges us in Matthew 19.12. Some people think that Paul condemns us but then whilst he was a great pastor he was human and therefore fallible. His fallibility was due to the fact that he knew nothing about a committed loving relationship between people of the same gender. In fact he talks about having sex 'against our nature' He knew it only as it existed in a form of domination and prostitution. But for the last 600 years the authoritarian church has promulgated the line of the sin of homosexuality so a gay Christian has to make a decision when he finally accepts that he is gay. He believes he can not be both gay and Christian. There are several options he can take.

GET RID OF GOD

These people know that they can not change their homosexuality so they leave the church. They find it hard to escape the teachings of the church. They try to blot out God by going overboard with excesses of sex, drugs and alcohol. But when they are alone and not 'smashed', God is still there.

GET RID OF HOMOSEXUALITY

These people believe that they have to try to change their sexuality. Some will decide to marry to effect change and end up not only making themselves miserable but dragging some poor unsuspecting woman along the path with them. Others decide they have to be celibate. (Celibacy is a vocation we offer to the Lord not something that is demanded of us because of our sexuality). That sort of action often results in other excesses of drugs, gambling and child molestation. Homosexuality is still there.

TRY TO RECONCILE

Some continue to go to church every Sunday accepting that gay is OK but not really believing it. They have casual sex. They do not form a permanent relationship because it reaffirms their guilt. They don't really love other people because they have been so grounded in their own worthlessness that they do not love themselves. And you know we have to love our neighbours as ourselves.

Another lot finds a liberated church and says that they are going to celebrate their sexuality. Unfortunately they tend to throw out the baby with the bath water. They say "We are the same as other people so the Church has to accept us" but when it comes to fidelity they say "But we are different". The church, in an effort to redress years of discrimination, often pats them on the head and says "OK" but it is not OK. We are the same. Whilst I believe that the Bible does not condemn homosexuality and that it is OK to give it sexual expression it should be in a loving, committed relationship. We are subject to exactly the same moral judgments as our straight brothers and sisters.

When I advocate monogamy as the Christian ideal I am often accused of copying the 'straight' model and maybe I am. But I don't do it just to copy them. I do it because I believe that it is the right way for a Christian to go. In a loving, committed relationship we find all the elements of what Christianity is about: care, love, sacrifice, tolerance, patience, hope and faith. They are all there.

But in the end we all have to decide what is right for us. It is not for us to sit on the sidelines and tell others what is right. As Paul says in Romans 14:13 "Let us stop judging one another. Instead, you should decide never to do anything that would make your brother stumble or fall into sin."

Let me conclude with parts of Paul's first letter to the people at Corinth (Chapter 13)

"I may be able to speak the languages of men and even of angels, but if I have no love, my speech is no more than a noisy gong or a clanging bell. I may have the gift of inspired preaching; I may have all knowledge and understand all secrets; I may have all the faith needed to move mountains-but if I have no love, I am nothing. I may give away everything I have, and even give up my body to be burnt-but if I have no love, this does me no good. Love is patient and kind; it is not jealous or conceited or proud; love is not ill mannered or selfish or irritable; love does not keep a record of wrongs; love is not happy with evil, but is happy with the truth. Love never gives up; and its faith, hope and patience never fail. Love is eternal. There are inspired messages, but they are temporary; there are gifts of speaking in strange tongues, but they will cease; there is knowledge, but it will pass. Meanwhile, these three remain: faith, hope and love; and the greatest of these is love."

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